She is Claiming Neither She or He - so how does this play out ?
Once we got over our loss of words - we actually came up with some clarity on this Hot Mess right here. this is a MAN - NO OVARIES, NO ESTROGEN; TESTES and TESTOSTERONE = MAN.
Lets stop the drama South Africa. just because you play head games do you think the rest of the world should subscribe to your idiot notions ? any physical examination would reveal that this is NOT A WOMAN. the DNA and the Hormonal tests have proven it, as well as the physical inspection. so give back the damn medal Caster.
You Ran with Women and You are a MAN
A Handsome Man so we can let it go there. you have been camped out in the womans locker rooms for years. just give the damn medal back and enter the race as a MAN, Which You Are.
You Ran with Women and You are a MAN
A Handsome Man so we can let it go there. you have been camped out in the womans locker rooms for years. just give the damn medal back and enter the race as a MAN, Which You Are.
Fact Is Caster Semenya is hermaphrodite;
yes both sets of DNA.. Are There
The Telegraph report said tests had found Semenya had no womb or ovaries - or Estrogen; but that she has internal testes, the male sexual organs which produce Testosterone, and her levels of that hormone are three times that of a 'normal' female.
doesn't the olympic committe have some experts on this, and some kind of precedent to set here ? wow, this is really reaching into a whole new area of sexism. does this mean that now we will see the third indicator box for hermaphrodite soon ?
when can a person deny their sex ? that's basically what's happening here
how does this effect the race, and her/his competitors ? there are so many questions on this one, that we are going to be watching with baited breath for the final word from the IOCC. don't worry South Africa, we're not worried about you vamping on the entire world. so your threats are falling on deaf ears thankfully.
The real deal is that This GUY needs to Stop Competing As A Woman; and Against Women. and South Africa needs to accept the FACTS, and deal with their mismanagement of resources. they should require a physical inspection of the athletes before allowing them to compete; after this. most of us will remember the Russian and Eastern European Drug Scandals of the 70's. Lets Not Go There Again IOCC.
Inquiring Minds Globally want to know,
Caster Semenya of South Africa celebrates after winning the women's 800 metres final
South Africa Threatens Third World War over Caster Semenya Affair
By Wendell Roelf, Reuters
KLEINMOND, South Africa — South Africa reacted angrily on Friday to a report that tests on its world champion runner Caster Semenya had found she was a hermaphrodite, threatening a "third world war" over the affair.Athletics' governing body declined to confirm the report in Australia's Daily Telegraph newspaper, which said the 18-year-old runner had both male and female sexual characteristics.
The IAAF said medical experts were examining the results of gender tests on Semenya, who won the women's 800 meters at last month's World Championships in Berlin. No decision would be taken until late November.
"I think it would be the third world war. We will go to the highest levels in contesting such a decision. I think it would be totally unfair and totally unjust," said Sports Minister Makhenkesi Stofile.
South African President Jacob Zuma decried the invasion of Semenya's privacy and what he called the violation of her rights, although neither he nor Stofile denied the report.
"I don't know why we should not respect the privilege between the doctor and the patient. Why, when the tests have been done, why was it published?" Zuma said.
The Telegraph report said tests had found Semenya had no womb or ovaries, but that she had internal testes, the male sexual organs which produce testosterone, and her levels of the hormone were three times that of a 'normal' female.
It said the IAAF was "ready to disqualify Semenya from future events and advise her to have immediate surgery because her condition carries grave health risks. They have also not ruled out stripping Semenya of her 800m world championships gold medal."
'SHOCK AND DISGUST'
Semenya, who was due to compete in a cross country race in Pretoria on Saturday, in her first competition since claiming the world title, withdrew from the event. Semenya's coach Michael Seme said that she was not "feeling well."
Stofile told a news conference his ministry had "noted with shock and disgust" media reports on the test results, which the South African government had not yet received.
"The issue here is that this girl has undesirable levels of testosterone -- what does it matter? That is neither here not there. She does not have a womb -- so what?," he said.
Nick Davies, spokesman for the International Association of Athletics Federations (IAAF), said media reports on the gender test results should not be considered as official statements by the sports body.
"There is a (IAAF) Council on 21 November and this will be the opportunity to conclusively finalize a decision," he said.
Some South Africans have accused the IAAF of racism for ordering the gender tests on Semenya, saying her broad shoulders and imposing musculature are common in women's athletics.
The controversy may have touched a raw nerve in a country where race is still a highly sensitive issue after decades of apartheid, which ended in 1994.
The militant Youth League of South Africa's ruling African National Congress (ANC) said in a statement: "Even if a test is done, the ANC YL will never accept the categorization of Caster Semenya as a hermaphrodite, because in South Africa and the entire world of sanity, such does not exist."
(Additional reporting by Ingrid Melander in Athens and Alison Raymond in South Africa; Editing by Giles Elgood)
6 comments:
How far will we go to win? (As a world society) It's a question we ask ourselves too often.
Is it truly that satisfying to win, but know you cheated?
As far as Semenya is concerned, she certainly doesn't look the part, but ambiguity on both sides is pretty common. The only difference is, most people aren't competing for their countries.
I don't get it. Don't these folks do tesing BEFORE someone enters a race? Actually, I find (her) life to be a sad one.
@The Guys - Sai I think that if they looked at it for what it is, she wouldn't qualify as a woman - anywhere. testes are not ovaries my friend. testes do not produce estrogen. she probably should have seen a doctor for correction before it got to this. who knows what to do in a situation when there is no proof, in this case, there is proof.
thanks for a guys point of view
@Cher - you and I are on the same track probably sitting side by side wondering how they declare the sex on the forms, without an EXAMINATION OF THE WHOLE BODY.
This is totally mad stupid. this is a MAN Damn It.
thanks for your comment sweets
While I completely agree that the Athletic's SA reaction of "vowing 3rd world war" is completely OTT, I would suggest that you check your sources before writing sensationlist articles. If you actually read the telegraph article you would've found the following quote:
"But Pierre Weiss, the IAAF secretary general, hinted strongly at the results on Thursday when he said: "It is clear that she is a woman, but maybe not 100 per cent."
The full report has not been released and I respectfully request that you refrain from emotive articles like this until it is. The results and the furore impact per personally, and at the moment I am sure that giving back the medal is the least of her concerns.
@KIM - Honey Read Your Own Repeated words "But Pierre Weiss, the IAAF secretary general, hinted strongly at the results on Thursday when he said: "It is clear that she is a woman, but maybe not 100 per cent."
tell me what grey area there is to NOT 100% Woman. either you ARE A Woman or You ARE A MAN.
KIM YOU SAID: The full report has not been released and I respectfully request that you refrain from emotive articles like this until it is.
Kim You left this comment so I hope you read my response and understand that I respect you. but Don't presume to try to tell me WHAT I CAN OR SHOULD WRITE ON MY BLOG. THAT IS NOT YOUR PLACE.
THIS POST IS ABOUT FACT; YOUR COMMENTS ARE ABOUT "FEELINGS".
This is Not a Grey Area. She is NOT A WOMAN if She is NOT 100% a Woman. This is A FACT DEAR. Ask Your Doctor.
since I am a Doctor and was previously a Nurse; I am hoping You will at least take My advice and Ask Your Own Physician.
Kim, the next time you fill out a form that has sex on it, draw a third box and then see the response from the people you submit it to. make sure you come back and tell us, you hear. LOL
And Kim, I will not address Homosexuality as I am Not Homosexual and do not have any views on it what so ever, as none were posted in the Post or Any Comment Here so Please Don't Add it to the mix. lets keep it clear.
Thanks For Your Input Kim
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